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Hyperkalemic Periodic ParalysisI believe that we need to test all AQHA horses and those that test positive be allowed to continue showing, but be banned from the breeding shed. This way we would not have as severe an economic impact. It would allow a lot of nice show horses to continue, but put an end to the disease eventually. Romny Beck I used to own an Appy mare that was HYPP Pos, and I believe that all stallion that are positive should be gelded, and all mares that are positive should not be bred. If everyone did this, then HYPP wouldn't be a problem in the horse industry. Mike Allen I just bought a mare with Impressive blood. The sire is "A Bit Impressive" and tested N/N. I am one of those that was not told of a possibility of HYPP. After finding out of this I began to search more on this and agree it should be addressed as soon as possible. Marta Uson I think all horses should be tested so this disease can be eliminated by not allowing the HYPP positive horses to breed. Arnie and Carol Vetterick I think all horses carrying Impressive bloodlines should be tested for the HYPP gene and all breeders who choose to continue to screw up the beautiful bloodline (not all the Impressive's are positive) should be HONEST to people about the dangers and sad truths about the disease. Allyson McNeill I realize that a great deal of money has been spent on the impressive line of quarter horse. I am concerned that the line is so prevasive in the quarterhorse world that all quarter horses should be tested. CJ Merry I agree with you 100%. I bought a colt that was at first supposed to be not related to impressive. (His sire was supposed to be Milford one). I was to pay 2500. When his papers came his sire was Darn Impressive. I immediately had him tested & he is H/N. I DID NOT pay 2500 for him and reported the problem to AQHA! I am glad they took a stand to protect unsuspecting people like me from dishonest breeders. My colt is 3 now and just starting under saddle. so far he is symptom free-- hope he stays that way. A. Kathryn Crist The fact that the HYPP gene is fatal should be reason enough for the Quarter Horse Association to stifle the breeding of positive horses. It was unfortunate that Impressive happened to be such a successful animal, however, the line must be drawn between obtaining a show animal and preserving the American Quarter Horse as a HEALTHY and versatile breed. Cheryl Baker I know the economic impact is a great one for those with HYPP horses. But I feel that as a responsible breeder it is a problem that can and should be bred out. I see HYPP as a "fault" and feel like other faults we are concerned with, it should not be introduced to a breeding program. HYPP is a big problem that will only be made bigger by those not willing to look at this in any other way but financialy. We should not intentionaly produce an animal we know may not have the best future due to HYPP. And I believe that in the long run, we WILL benifit financialy by producing horses free of HYPP. The bottom line is that it will take time. ed holland It's funny to watch, the people in the west half of the country are terrified of hypp. The people in the east have excepted it. I don't think you'll ever get ride of it. When hypp was to the PUBLICS attention some 3 years ago, the breeding to the top halter stallion that where positive, dropped drastically. The better negative studs then had an opportunity of their life time to bred to some of the top mares. I've watch the world show for the last two years, and the results are still the same the top hypp postive are still winning more then their share, even with fewer breedings. Kid Clu booked full for 97, same with mr. conclusion, Cool Skip, Sonney security. The negative stud that is making some way is serria te. The west coast has Greg Whalen calling dirty and clean horses. I guess we can argue till we're blue in the face, BUT I don't like hypp either, BUT with the amount of money in some of the major shows, people are hedging their bets, after all 2nd place pays less then 1st. Aslo look at the major studs that have sold lately. Mr,Cool Skip, Kid Clue, Diversified, Doubley Impress, all postive, and all big bucks. I guess the world waits to see if perpetulizm can produce world champs like the positive horses can. By the way a resent study By Dr. Nolan found that postive horses have 3 times the points that negative horses to do. I like negative horses, it just takes long to produce a good one. circlenat@sprynet.com I have a very strong option regarding HYPP. I feel that Impressive bred horses used as breeding stock should be HYPP N/N - period! This disease could simply be wiped out if positive horses were not bred. Don't get me wrong I love Impressive bred horses and stand a Skipper W / Impressive bred stallion to the public. But, I breed responsibly. I do not accept any HYPP positive mares, which means mare owners must show proof of HYPP N/N status via an extended pedigree accompanied with registration papers, or a certificate issued from CA Davis (including grade mares!) I strongly agree that testing should be mandatory on all horses to be used as breeding stock. Whether it be directly or indirectly (parents tested N/N) and made available as public record. Stacey Wards I think that all positive horses(that were deemed so by a test) should be spayed/gelded accordingly so that they may not breed this disease further. Anonymous------I agree with all the rest that Hypp positive horses should not be bred. We need to try to get rid of this disease before it seriously affects the horse industry. Kitty Smith Positive horses should not be bred. It's only money that continues to cause some horses early and maybe painful deaths. Since we know what this disease is and that it can to eliminated if we don't breed affected individuals, it should stop. However, people "want to win" and that's what I hear allthe time, well I want to win so who cares? If, BIG IF, the judging would change to selecting horses who typify the using quarter horse, ie, not soooo muscled up they can hardly walk, but rather ones you lead in the morning and ride in the afternoon, then maybe the natural quarter horse would return to reign. However, people being people, and greed being greed, I doubt I will see a change like that in my lifetime. Gisela Foulke I just read the artical on HYPP and I think it is great that the AQHA took a stand. I have been showing Dogs for 19 years, 10 years ago I went to the cocker Spanial-Parti Variety and I have had nothing but medical problems with this breed, Why, because the breeders won't tell people the hidden health problems, and all because of money. PRA, Cataracts, Skin Problems etc. I will not sell my medical problems to the public. I wish the American Kennel Club would do the same as the AQHA. It is so very disappointing to see a beautifull animal get sick and nothing your can really do. Needless to say I am getting out of Cocker Spaniels. MIMI MICHIELSSENI had a beautiful palamino mare out of MBJ'S Impressive Opie. This horse and I won just about every halter class we entered. This was the horse every breeder dreams of. She was tested N/P, which ment she might have HYPP paralysis attacks or might not. Well at 2 yaers of age the attacks came on.I gave her acetazolamide 2 times daily as directed. I also kept a daily diary on what I fed and how much. I also never veried the times I fed her or gave medicine. Needless to say nothing corralaited,the attacks came no matter what I did to pervent them. The mare went into training at 3 yrs.old. In the 2nd month of training she dropped dead. When we bred to the Impressive son HYPP was not on the forefront as it is now. We knewnothing of HYPP. My view on the subject is no one should beeed any horse knowlingly with HYPP. Anyone who does is a Jackass. Just because a horse is represented as being HYPP N/N and the paperwork states that fact, don't bank on it until you have retested the horse yourself. Write a contract with the seller stating that the horse is GUARANTEED to be N/N and retest immediately! Protect your investment! Becky Weltzin hello! I think your article is great! More people need to be informed of the problems associated with HYPP. There is just one thing in your article I would like to comment about. When a Hypp N/H horse is crossed with a N/N horse,50% will carry the gene and will possibly be affected. But when a H/H horse is crossed with a N/N horse, ALL horses will carry the mutated gene. I don't know if that was clear in your article. Also, two N/H horses crossing will result in 3/4 being affected. Not very good odds any way you look at it. Personally, I think it is an expensive gamble for breeders to cross horses carrying the gene, but that is just my opinion. Thanks for listening- Becky Weltzin L.D. Smith com My view Against the cull. I think there should be some sort of restrictions on buying and selling horses with this disease. I think they should be pro secuted if they do not tell someone if the horse has the disease because that I think is fraud. They should face the music from the registry like an y member. Also I think there should be mandatory testing. I am against culling because of The prevalent vi ew of people who write for a well known horse maga zine that want to cull certain colors or traits they consider undesirable. These horses that certain horse experts want to cul l do not have genetic diseases or carry defective genes. Some people think cremello horse are undesirable but if you breed a sorrel or 0 chestnut to one you get a palamino. That is wrong not to register a horse than is u seful to get 100% palamino. I rather have a strong foot breed to horse that compliments the mare and a proportional body . I think that is the problem... there are too many unethical breeders and sellers. I think there should be restrictions and they must be followed or risk punishment such as fines and probations or bans depending on the severity. I think restricting the breeding mandatory testing of all current horses registered and new horses registered and restrictions on the sales of the infected 0horses should be enacted to protect people who buy these horses. Impressive is too closely bred or in other words... his sire and dam were too closely related. You get a diserable characteristic breeding a sire to his offspring but you get a trade off such as genetic flaws or tempermental problems or worse. Lane D. Jeffer A simple solution to the problem of unconscientious or dishonest breeders knowingly breeding HYPP Positive horses would be to establish a clearinghouse to which such breeders could be reported. Then anyone wishing to breed or buy a horse could check this list to see if the person their dealing with has cheated anyone in the past. This would be simple enough to do on +he WWW. Obviously a dishonest breeder would be able to get away with it once as one did to us but that would be the end of it after he was reported. Maybe we could even flood their mailboxes with thank you cards for trying to ruin a perfectly good bloodline. Dennis An Equiman Good to see your stand. Had my filly tested eve though she isnt Impressive. N/N Nice relief just to know. Cant imagine people utting these positive tested horses above the safety of children and yes they put kids on these horses. My opinion is none of the positive horses should be bred but thats my opinion. I certainly would not own one. Nicepage. Goodjob. Deby Manis I personally do not deal with Impressive bred horses, or halter horses even, but I do care about the AQHA & keeping the integrity & reputation of the Quarter Horse a positive one. I believe all horses related to Impressive MUST be tested before registration & in the event that horse tests N/H or H/H, they MUST be gelded or spayed or registration will be denied. I realize that sounds pretty drastic, but this horrible defect must be stopped in it's tracks. There are too many good halter horses with & without Impressive breeding that are N/N to be breeding to ones that are not perfect. I have nothing against Impressive, he was a beautiful horse & he produced a lot of great horses. I DO have a problem however with the irresponsible owners who keep breeding & promoting the horses that are positive. I hope that one day this gene can be erradicated from the horse. Who knows....it may mutate and affect more than just the Impressive line. Karen Colllins I don't think postive horses with hypp should be breed. I would like to see this disease aradicated. Don T Williams I am a horse owner and half 6 horses currently. Two weeks ago purchased two qtr colts from a breeder in northern Ca. She did not disclose the colts had HyPP and only one testicle that I should have spotted even not knowning any about qtr horse breeding history and besides we were planning on gelding the colts anyway We have never heard of Impressive or HyPP and now have a colt that has had two episodes and ran blood test at Davis of comfirm. We would never had purchased a horse with the known condition or at least required a blood test as proof. We raise the Friesian Horse and registary would never for one allow a stallion with desease to breed and certainly would never have kept him as a register breeding stallion is the registary. And for a second issue would require a blood test on all stallions as we do now and all breeding mares and all females at birth. I am greatly disappointed with the American Quarter Horse Assoc. for allowing this known defficiency to continue and more disturbed with them knowing the only reason this is allowed and is incouraged in some cases is the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR and without regard for the animals future or well being. It is a shame All perspective buyers of horses of this breed should be protected from dishonest people and breeders of this type. We told the breeders we wanted the horses for endurance and mountain riding and have been discouraged by two vets that these HyPP horses should not be relied for safety in the mountains with this condition. Sincerely Don T Williams Thunder Mountain Friesians This is our first qtr horse in 20 yrs and it was to be for our 10 old daughter. Tammy If people were honest and put money second and people and their horses first, the HYPP problem could gradually be phazed out. But unfortunately the dishonest people who continue to breed HYPP horses that should not be bred for money's sake, lie, switch test results, etc., will keep the problem around for a long time, much longer than it should be. Kristin Stump I think all breeds should ban the use of HYPP positive or carrying breeding stock. I myself love Impressive breeding, but do find it hard to market my horses to some people who have heard HYPP and don't understand it. I wrote to APHA about doing something about this and they are printing my opinion in the journal. PLEASE everyone- if we get enough interest in the subject maybe they'll do something about it! I, too, feel that it's not right to pass on disorders to the next generation. Sure, we love our horses. But do we love it when they suffer? Shouldn't we consider their welfare first? Why not just take steps to make sure it doesn't happen? But as you say, money means more to some than the well being of another, be it animal or human. tbq@capital.net Pablo Sust at PABSUST@neworld.net I believe that all horses should be tested and if they are afflicted that the AQHA should deny them registration. By doing this they would prevent unscrupulous breeders from continuing to breed to positive stallions and mares. Unfortunately there are breeders that not only are continuing to breed to other Quarter horses but now they are expanding to Paints and Appys. Continuing to breed these animals is going to further increase the number of afflicted horses and now spread to other breeds. If we are to stop the spread of HYPP the financial incentive must be removed. I have a HyPP palomino mare who is now 10 years old. I bought her when she was 7 months old. Episodes of "colic" from age 20 months on. Luckily for a wonderful vet, at age 2 1/2 she figured out that it was not colic after I almost lost the little girl--shallow breathing, faint pulse, etc. She has been on Acetazolamide since 2/93 and "Thank God", she has not had an episode. I will never breed her! She is gorgeous and quiet, but..... So many HyPP+ horses get sold because the owner doesn't want to "hassle" with meds. We are the guardians of these beautiful creatures--we domesticated them, therefore, we must guard them. We allowed Impressive to pass on this trait (read one letter that said he didn't display this disease--Bulls--t!! I've known about Impressive's supposed "colicky" problems since the mid-80's). His progeny were dropping dead back then from unknown reasons until someone decided to take blood immediately after death. I've stopped showing QH--the "money, money, money" attitude is sickening. I love my horses, all 7 of them. They may not be show clipped and "all beautified", but they are loved, cared for, all their needs supplied including my HyPP mare whose vet bills until '93 were in the thousands. Now, $800 a year keeps her from dropping dead. Hope it stays that way. Also, anyone out there on Acetazolimide notice the dramatic increase in price? It more than doubled. Think it has anything to do with the HyPP horses? Thanks, Barb No Bull Farm We as breeders of American Quarter horses should be trying to improve as well as well as perserve the breed. We do not allow other defects such as parrot mouth or crypt orchid, so why should we compromise on any other defect. I also agree that all horses should be tested and if positive, any offspring should not be eligable for registration. Lets not forget that AQHA did not take immidiate action to imform people about HYPP or to make a stand on the positive horese. It has even been said that they knew about the disorder long before it became public. If this is true, it make my stomach turn to think I am part of this organization. i personally think every onwer that is going to purchase a horse with HYPP needs to know all the info they can on that subject....all of them should be tested and if it were possible i think they should be tested prior to being purchased so that the fact wouldn't be hidden. Zak Teague at tracit@cei.net Im not sure about the right way to get rid of HYPP, but Im sure that something needs to be done. There is lots of small time buyers at horse sales that end up with a positive HYPP horse and don't even know they have one. Then the horse breeds or is bread and passes the gene on This needs to be regulated in some way. Starting at the top with all the assosiations. There the ones who will stop it, not the people who are making all the money off the horses. This world is about money in this day and time. IM sure your aware. What can I do? Zak Teague Camden, Arkansas |
